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XJ-S Interior

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XJ-S Interior

Front Legroom

If you are tall, you will be pleased to know that the front seats in an XJ-S have two sets of mounting holes. The cars generally come from the factory with the seats mounted on the forward holes. Simply unbolt the seat rails from the floor, turn the seat over and unbolt the rails from the seat. Remount the rails to the seat using the alternate set of holes, and the seat will adjust farther rearward.

If you are tall, you will be better off in an earlier model XJ-S. In the late 1980's, the seats got bulkier. When Jaguar incorporated electric motors in the seat adjustments in the early 1990's, they got bulkier still. All these changes made it more difficult for the large person to fit comfortably in the car.

Tall people should also avoid the H&E convertible. Relocating the seat mounts rearward will do no good, because the housing for the convertible mechanism limits rearward motion of the front seats.

Seat Mounting Bolts

The four bolts that hold the front seat rails to the floor tend to be aggravating. The front two bolts go into rectangular block nuts that do not hold themselves in place, although it usually isn't too difficult to hold them in place with a large screwdriver long enough to get the threads started. The rear bolt near the door threads into a trapped nut that can move around for alignment. The rear bolt adjacent to the console is threaded directly into a boss welded to the floor; since this is the only corner that cannot be moved for alignment, this is the one that securely locates the seat. When putting the seat in, it is a good idea to get all four bolts started before tightening any, and then tighten the rear one near the console first.

To make the job a little easier, you can replace the two rectangular block nuts at the front with clip nuts that will hold themselves in place. The clip nuts are described as an "extruded U nut, 5/16 Regular" or "Long." The "regular" means that the clip part is 5/8" deep, while the "long" has a clip about 7/8" deep. Suitable U-nuts were bought at Lowe's and made by Curtis Industries, Inc., Eastlake, OH 44095. The Curtis part number is 838758 for the regular and 838759 for the long. Similar U-nuts are also sold by auto body parts shops, with the regular having a part number 4016.

The best course of action seems to be to have a selection of regular and long U-nuts on hand to do this job. On the author's car, the regular fit the locations near the doors while the locations near the console required the long. You don't wanna use the long on the locations near the doors if you don't have to, since they would protrude more than necessary and possibly hurt someone's ankle or run pantyhose.

Of course, strength here is of some importance; you don't want that seat coming loose in an accident. However, even though the U-nuts are extruded from sheet metal, they are probably stronger than the original rectangular block nuts -- which are made of something related to silly putty. Since the U-nut is a clip, it is made of spring steel and therefore quite strong. And the extruded threads are perhaps twice as long as the threads on the rectangular block.

Since U-nuts seem to only come in coarse thread and the original mounting bolts are fine thread, you will have to replace the front two bolts as well to get the U-nuts to work. The shape of the head of the bolt is crucial, since the wrong shape may obstruct the adjustment of the seat. The bolt to use with it is a "socket head cap screw, 5/16-18 x 1 inch. Curtis part number 835558, but this is a fairly common critter and can be found most anywhere. This is driven by a 1/4" Allen wrench. The original lock washer may be used with this bolt.

On the earlier cars, these bolts were Phillips head, and an unusually large Phillips head at that. This makes them quite difficult to get really tight, especially the rear ones since it may be difficult to get the screwdriver to engage the bolt head straight on. Later cars reportedly use Torx bolts instead, a big improvement. The Allen drive cap screws also work quite well; if you have the Phillips, you might consider picking up some 3/4" long fine 5/16" fine thread cap screws for the rear locations, making all four removable with an Allen wrench.

Comfort

Some of us prefer the bottom portion of the front seat to be inclined somewhat; this helps hold the occupant in position with less effort on his part, as opposed to having to brace one's feet against the floorboard to keep from constantly sliding forward. This is especially a problem if you like the seat back reclined somewhat.

The seats in the 1983 XJ-S have no angle adjustment on the bottom. However, a small amount of incline can be permanently added by inserting a few 5/16" washers under the front end of the seat rails, around the front mounting bolts. It wouldn't be a good idea to add more than 1/4" or so since you may start distorting the rails, but 1/4" can make a dramatic difference. If you need more, you can also insert washers between the upper rails and the seat itself. Beyond that, you need to make some tapered washers to be able to bolt the rails to the floor without distorting them.

Leather

Robert Olman of New York sends this tip. If your leather interior has areas where the dye has worn through and the color of bare leather is showing, it can be re-dyed. The original leather, by Connolly Leathers, is painted with dye rather than vat dyed like other cars -- if you look at the back side of the leather, you see the undyed color. Connolly uses a lacquer-based dye; you'll need 2-3 pints for the entire interior. Before using, you must determine which pieces are leather and which are vinyl, as the lacquer-based dye will destroy vinyl (Some XJ-S's are all leather, others have vinyl in areas that don't contact humans such as the sides of the seats). Or, you can use a non-original non-lacquer-based dye.

You might want to remove seats, console, etc. from the car to make the job easier. Clean the leather with lacquer thinner, sand it lightly with fine sandpaper to remove the shine, then clean again with lacquer thinner. Then apply the dye evenly, perhaps in two coats.

If it is humid, it will take a long time to dry. Heavy coats will also require a long time. Heavy coats in damp weather may require a week to dry.

If you would rather spray the dye, you will have to remove all items from the car, thin the dye with 5-7 parts thinner to 1 part dye, and apply many thin coats. It will require more dye due to waste. Many marine supply shops sell disposable aerosol sprayers (about US$6) with replaceable aerosols (about US$3). You'll need about three aerosols.

A complete restoration kit is available directly from Connolly with instructions.

Note that Jaguar has used at least three different colors called "biscuit." To get the correct one, you must specify model and year.

There is another product called CT600 that has been used by Jaguar owners with success. According to Gregory Andrachuk, it involves a prep cleaner followed by a dye which is applied in two coats with a foam brush.

Interior Wood Trim Refinishing

Rick Lindsay provides this suggested procedure for refinishing the wood trim:

  • Sand the veneered wood VERY carefully with 200 or 400 grit paper removing only enough wood to freshen the surface. Even with 200 grit sandpaper it is easy to cut through the thin veneers used in britcars especially on edges. I've found it better to leave a bit of the 'old finish' than to sand thru the veneer and have to stain the substrate. Pay particular attention to edges that should be left crisp not rounded. It adds a professional look. Always sand linearly, not in circles.
  • Clean and tack cloth the fresh wood. I use the vacuum cleaner to suck the sanding dust up out of the cracks and pores in the wood. It's remarkable how much comes out!
  • Dilute into a clean glass jelly jar about a half jar of MinWax brand exterior Spar high gloss urethane. To that, add an equal amount of new clean mineral spirits. Mix well (stirred, not shaken).
  • With a small fine brush, paint the wood surface. The fresh wood will soak up the thin urethane mixture like a sponge. This is, of course, the idea.
  • Allow to dry 24 hours.
  • Sand lightly (basically to remove high spots) with 400 grit paper.
  • Vacuum clean.
  • Repeat about 5 times to build up a thick coat. By this time the pores in the wood should be completely full; if not, you're not done with the diluted coats.
  • Sand the last time with 400 grit paper to a matte finish.
  • Here's where things have to be REALLY clean. In a clean environment away from all dust, spray the wood with MinWax brand exterior Spar high gloss urethane straight from the spray can. A thin, smooth coat is fine.
  • Allow to dry 24 hours.
  • Carefully wet sand with 1200 grit paper. The kind used to 'block' or 'color sand' a new paint job is best. After all, that is what you are doing.
  • I only use two coats of spray because finish is all that you are adding.
  • Block again carefully, polish as if it were a new paint job. Buff if you have the courage. I do it by hand as a buffer in my hands is a license to screw up royally.
  • Finish the job with a coat of Carnauba.
  • Admire and drink beer.

Alastair Lauener provides an alternative method of stripping the wood:

I used a chemical called Nitromors, a paint stripper, water soluble, to strip off all the old varnish, and washed under cold water. I tested on an old spare dash first. Careful not to let the wood get too wet. Allow to dry out for a few days. Be careful not to scratch it.

Instrument Cluster Detailing

John Napoli says it only takes about an hour to clean up the instrument cluster and make it look nice. First, remove the cluster from the car, which requires prying off a plastic cover on each end of the row of warning lights to access mounting screws. The steering wheel does not need to be removed, and merely disconnecting the cables and wiring harnesses from the back of the cluster allows you to remove it from the car. Disassemble the pod, and clean all the dust out of the warning light boxes and the like.

If you also want to improve lighting, remove the four green lenses. The instruments will be that more brightly lit at night. You can probably also fit brighter bulbs, if you so desire. Tighten the mounting screws for the gauges (they will be a little loose and the better connection does affect the gauge reading!). Clean the el cheapo printed circuit tracings where the two electrical plugs attach.

Another method for making lights brighter would be to improve reflectivity. Around the bulb, paint the black plastic white -- Liquid Paper works good! -- or apply small pieces of aluminum tape.

Adhesives

If you're doing interior work, you need to know about adhesives. The following is from Timothy J. Hesse;

I am the product marketeer for the ITSD Industrial Aerosol Adhesives and I formerly was the product marketeer for Auto Trades Aerosol Adhesives.

74 Foam Fast Adhesive is an excellent foam bonding adhesive which performs well up to about 120 degrees F. Above that temp, the adhesive will soften, and with sufficient stress, you can pull the foam apart. It is possible to experience up to 150+ degrees in a closed car, and the seat part does see a fair amount of stress when a person is sitting on it.

Another 3M product which is a good foam bonder and has 160 degree temp resistance is General Trim Adhesive, pn 08080, which is sold by the Automotive Trades Division. This would be a better product to try for seat bottoms.

76 is a good product... but does NOT have very good plasticizer resistance. Vinyl material is typically loaded with plasticizing oils, and in time these plasticizers migrate from the vinyl to the adhesive, and they soften the adhesive to the point the adhesive becomes very soft and gummy and "lets go." 76 has 160 degree F temp resistance and would work on foam bonding, but vinyl bonding would not be a long term success.

A better product for bonding vinyl is Super Trim Adhesive, pn 08090, also sold by Automotive Trades Division. Super Trim is a neoprene-based contact adhesive in an aerosol can. It has 200 degree F temp resistance, and is plasticizer resistant. In fact, Super Trim is very good for reattaching vinyl tops, vinyl trim, etc. in auto restoration projects.

Headliner

Apparently, if you don't want to have headliner trouble with an XJ-S, you'd better get a convertible! They all seem to fall down sooner or later, and the interior light is poorly placed to help much.

The material used in a headliner is a fabric bonded to a thin layer of foam. The failure mode of headliners (not just Jaguar) is that the foam rots and falls apart. While it appears tempting to just find some way to glue it back up (and there are people who are willing to sell you products to "inject" glue in there with), the fix will not last; once the foam is shot, gluing it back together only makes it fall apart again above or below the glue layer.

The only solution is a new headliner. Fortunately, this problem affects cars other than Jags, and a competent craftsman can usually be found locally to do this job well for a reasonable cost.

You will also be given the choice of insisting on genuine Jaguar headliner fabric or just installing a generic material. You should have learned about British non-metallic materials by now; if not, let me point out that you are REPLACING a genuine Jaguar headliner! True, it appears that American headliners fall too, but it isn't any sooner than Jaguar ones. The only reason to get the original material is to match the color perfectly.

While this is a good example of work best left to professionals, there are those who want to try doing it themselves. Frank Perrick says,

The trick is to buy only 3M spray adhesive and read the can. There is only one 3M adhesive recommended for this job. The wrong can will say 'not for head liners', and the first hot day you will be wearing your headliner. Headliner kits including fabric and clips are available at local auto parts stores.

By the way, the headliner fabric in the XJ-S is bonded to a piece of stiff cardboard. It is somewhat of a challenge to get this out of the car; the Jaguar manual specifies removing the windshield! Regardless of the methods attempted, you will need at least two people.

Facia

On the dashboard, just below the speedometer and tachometer on either side of the steering column, there is a panel covered with a fuzzy black fabric intended to be nonreflective to prevent glare on the gauges. This fabric tends to come apart after a few years' exposure to sunlight. To replace it, visit any shop that installs automobile headliners. These two pieces would qualify as scrap to them, you might even get it for free. Take the panels out, remove the old fabric and install the new with contact cement.

Glovebox

The lining on the inside of the glovebox is -- you guessed it -- headliner material.

 

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